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20:36:54, 19.05.19

I think it is calculated correctly, but it is very complicated

We have a three-way tie:
Australia 2p 4:4
Croatia 2p 7:7
Romania 2p 7:7

Criteria:
1. head-to-head points
2. head-to-head GD
3. head-to-head goals scored
4. total GD
5. draw (team ID in this case)

So as we can see, we have 2 totally tied teams: Croatia and Romania. But because there is only 1 place available and we cannot determine the 1.st team in this three-way tie we have to move to the next criteria, which is the total GD. And as we can see, Australia is the best team by this criteria.

A lot of luck for Australia in this case/calculation, but is it totally correct.

21:44:48, 19.05.19

RR 20:36:54, 19.05.19 I think it is calculated correctly, but it is very complicated

We have a three-way tie:
Australia 2p 4:4
Croatia 2p 7:7
Romania 2p 7:7

Criteria:
1. head-to-head points
2. head-to-head GD
3. head-to-head goals scored
4. total GD
5. draw (team ID in this case)

So as we can see, we have 2 totally tied teams: Croatia and Romania. But because there is only 1 place available and we cannot determine the 1.st team in this three-way tie we have to move to the next criteria, which is the total GD. And as we can see, Australia is the best team by this criteria.

A lot of luck for Australia in this case/calculation, but is it totally correct.


That's bullshit. Australia should be last by the 3rd criteria. The 4th one should only apply to Romania and Croatia to decide the team that remains in the elite division. If we go by the 4th one Croatia should remain. If we redo the tie-breaker from the beggining Romania should remain after beating Croatia in their match. But in no way should Australia be the team to stay up.

22:11:21, 19.05.19

You need to learn how the system works in those cases. Prove me wrong :)

marcis942
22:28:59, 19.05.19

RR 22:11:21, 19.05.19 You need to learn how the system works in those cases. Prove me wrong :)
But thats the fact, Head to head points 2p for all teams,
2. GD 0 for all teams
3. head to head goals scored Australia has 4 wich is the worst wich puts them last place, Croatia and Romania stays tied
4. Total GD Croatia has -2 and Romania has -4 which puts Croatia at second place and Romania in third.
But it doesn't calculate this way because the tie braker Koefficient hassn't been calculated as you can look at standing it 0 for all teams

23:33:41, 19.05.19

I have explained it and it is logical, according to the rules/calculation logic.

Ice Shaman
00:20:38, 20.05.19

Yeah, I think we need to separate two things, here

A bug is when something is working not as intended. In those cases, fixing it asap, and retroactively applying any changes is important. But that's not what happened here.

Rather, what we have is a rule system that is dissatisfying to some. In that case, we should have a discussion about how to change it, then put that change in the queue and announce when it's live for future seasons.

Despite being the manager of the team that benefited by the existing rules, I am sympathetic to the argument for changing the rules (eg a "first past the post" application of the tie-break cascade).

However, I don't believe that such a changes should ever be applied retroactively, since people manage to those rules.

refused
12:24:42, 20.05.19

This is no so called "promotion" group. You are not promoted to a higher division, or you are not advancing to another part of the tournament. Hence, head-to-head does not count for this specific group. Source: Icko, years back.

12:38:54, 20.05.19

refused 12:24:42, 20.05.19 This is no so called "promotion" group. You are not promoted to a higher division, or you are not advancing to another part of the tournament. Hence, head-to-head does not count for this specific group. Source: Icko, years back.

Exactly, I remember this now :)

Haha, this games surprises me every day :)


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