Regarding players form
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starsnostars
23:21:07, 27.12.16

I wanted to quickly check the guide but for whatever reason its not being displayed in English for me.

For a player with negative (-5) form removing him from the line-up is suppose to help right?

Will a player with no change in form also potentially get a boost from being removed from the line-up?

00:18:30, 28.12.16

starsnostars 23:21:07, 27.12.16 Will a player with no change in form also potentially get a boost from being removed from the line-up?

"-5" will got to "0" and "0" will go to "+5" potentially.

Ice Shaman
20:13:31, 28.12.16

OnBoard 00:18:30, 28.12.16 starsnostars 23:21:07, 27.12.16 Will a player with no change in form also potentially get a boost from being removed from the line-up?

"-5" will got to "0" and "0" will go to "+5" potentially.


"potentially" is the key word. In my experience, it works around 65-75% of the time. Also note that it is dependent on them already playing in the line-up (for league or tournament games) and that whatever flag there is for having played "wears out" over time. So you may have to yo-yo them in and out of the line-up to get the form moving up consistently.

jkburns1
13:40:15, 01.01.17

starsnostars 23:21:07, 27.12.16 I wanted to quickly check the guide but for whatever reason its not being displayed in English for me.

For a player with negative (-5) form removing him from the line-up is suppose to help right?

Will a player with no change in form also potentially get a boost from being removed from the line-up?


Typically rest of one game takes it from -5 to 0 and two games typically gets it moving positively in +5 increments. It's pretty random but I have found rest of one game typically only maintains form where it stops from that rest for a handful of games whereas a two game rests get it moving positively and tends to stick substantially longer. I usually have to do a two day rest at least 1-2x per season for top players.

islander1
14:54:34, 03.01.17

The game has to be meaningful, too. Doing it for a friendly won't work.

13:31:22, 04.01.17

How much does form affect the player's performance?

Herbert Knox
13:39:06, 04.01.17

Ask icko :-)

15:25:02, 04.01.17

Mojster 13:31:22, 04.01.17 How much does form affect the player's performance?

The last answer from Icko (about 4 years ago) was "not so much".
If you just start the game, you should not be worried about the form. Form is important in National Teams, as well as if you have a chance for the final in PO 1 league, NCHC, WL, JC, VTS.

If you somewhere in the middle of any league (including the 1-st one) or you just building your team, Form is the last thing you should be think of.

17:48:42, 04.01.17

I know last season when I didn't watch my form I was 2nd to last.
After like half the season I started watching the form and I got a convincing playoff spot (I think 5th or 4th), now I'm still watching it and I'm ranked 3th in my league, so I feel like it does do a lot more than the not much icko made us believe all those years ago.

refused
17:53:15, 04.01.17

It makes a difference, but as with almost everything you have to think longer term. Do you have a chance to win anything current season? Go for it. If not, do not even think about wasting training/experience just to rise form.

islander1
01:09:00, 07.01.17

refused 17:53:15, 04.01.17 It makes a difference, but as with almost everything you have to think longer term. Do you have a chance to win anything current season? Go for it. If not, do not even think about wasting training/experience just to rise form.

this.

starsnostars
03:43:12, 12.01.17

In my (admittedly limited) experience I think there's a noticeable contribution from form to the hockeyarena formula.

I bought a goalie in my first season in the IV leagues and although he was better in every aspect than my starting goalies he didn't do too well on the ice and was relegated to back-up duty. After promoting to the III leagues he got up to 100 form and maintained that for the whole season. I promoted again.

So with low form he wasn't playing well in a league that was mostly afk/abandoned, but a season later and with 100 form he became my star goalie in a much more active and competitive league.

MDavidson
02:37:59, 05.02.17

starsnostars 03:43:12, 12.01.17 In my (admittedly limited) experience I think there's a noticeable contribution from form to the hockeyarena formula.

I bought a goalie in my first season in the IV leagues and although he was better in every aspect than my starting goalies he didn't do too well on the ice and was relegated to back-up duty. After promoting to the III leagues he got up to 100 form and maintained that for the whole season. I promoted again.

So with low form he wasn't playing well in a league that was mostly afk/abandoned, but a season later and with 100 form he became my star goalie in a much more active and competitive league.


There's a bit (a lot) of randomness though, in my experience form makes a noticeable difference in average training values day over day but regarding game performance, I haven't really been able to quantify anything tangible. I'm with 'refused' a couple units above, if you can win something now then pay attention, but other then that don't waste the experience. Form tends to sort itself out anyways.

14:04:00, 06.02.17

MDavidson 02:37:59, 05.02.17 starsnostars 03:43:12, 12.01.17 In my (admittedly limited) experience I think there's a noticeable contribution from form to the hockeyarena formula.

I bought a goalie in my first season in the IV leagues and although he was better in every aspect than my starting goalies he didn't do too well on the ice and was relegated to back-up duty. After promoting to the III leagues he got up to 100 form and maintained that for the whole season. I promoted again.

So with low form he wasn't playing well in a league that was mostly afk/abandoned, but a season later and with 100 form he became my star goalie in a much more active and competitive league.

There's a bit (a lot) of randomness though, in my experience form makes a noticeable difference in average training values day over day but regarding game performance, I haven't really been able to quantify anything tangible. I'm with 'refused' a couple units above, if you can win something now then pay attention, but other then that don't waste the experience. Form tends to sort itself out anyways.



I may be in the minority but I believe that form maters for player performance. Goalie performance above all other positions.

I will sit players to get their form going the right way. When I have time to pay attention and play the game properly.

I know that for sure it use to have a considerable impact on Goalie performance, I have not been playing too much attention to it in the last 5 seasons or so I just make sure my starting goalie has good form and as many players as possible too.

Ice Shaman
00:57:41, 07.02.17

Tarmore 14:04:00, 06.02.17
I may be in the minority but I believe that form maters for player performance. Goalie performance above all other positions.

I will sit players to get their form going the right way. When I have time to pay attention and play the game properly.

I know that for sure it use to have a considerable impact on Goalie performance, I have not been playing too much attention to it in the last 5 seasons or so I just make sure my starting goalie has good form and as many players as possible too.


I also believe in form, particularly for centres.

magicspeedo
05:07:21, 19.02.17

I am a firm believer in form and my team will usually be 80%+ on average. Getting everyone on board with form management in the National Team is quite difficult as long as people still ignore form. People will let a 500 AI player sit at 0 form for multiple seasons. Form will never cause your team to lose 10-0 to a much weaker AI team, but it will be important in games that matter most. It is the difference between holding on to a 1 goal lead late in the 3rd or leaking a goal and going to overtime.

magicspeedo
05:18:10, 19.02.17

magicspeedo 05:07:21, 19.02.17. It is the difference between holding on to a 1 goal lead late in the 3rd or leaking a goal and going to overtime.

Btw, you can leak a game tying goal late for many various factors. It was an example. A better example would be it's the difference between hitting the post or hitting the net when it matters most.


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