Anyone ever have a player who refused to go up in form?
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islander1
22:13:16, 10.03.17

http://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_player_info.inc&id=36110777

I've sat this guy for 3 or 4 straight league games. Still zero.

I'm just going to play him now, what the heck, must be in the middle of a divorce with his sim wife away from the rink.

Ice Shaman
22:20:22, 10.03.17

yeah, after a while, sitting is no longer effective. the chances of form switching in your favour seem to drop off after 2-3 games.

so, essentially if their form is not going up after two games of whatever you are doing, then do the opposite: if they're sitting, play them. if they're playing, sit them. and keep yo-yo'ing until they turn the corner and keep going up.

kik.
22:31:55, 10.03.17

islander1 22:13:16, 10.03.17 <a href="http://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?http://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_player_info.inc&amp;id=36110777" target="_blank">http://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_player_info.inc&amp;id=36110777</a>

I've sat this guy for 3 or 4 straight league games. Still zero.

I'm just going to play him now, what the heck, must be in the middle of a divorce with his sim wife away from the rink.



He's just old.

starsnostars
17:07:48, 11.03.17

I have a couple players with habitually terrible form.

One is a younger guy who had zero form when I got him 5+ weeks ago, hasn't budged from that zero despite sitting him for awhile or putting him in the line-up.

The other had decent form when I bought him but then immediately went into decline and bottomed out at 0 and stayed there for a number of weeks. I suspect being one of the only two non-Canadians on the team that he wasn't a fan of Canadian winters. He finally began gaining form, halted at 20 due to (probably self-inflicted) injuries.

19:27:24, 11.03.17

islander1 22:13:16, 10.03.17 I've sat this guy for 3 or 4 straight league games. Still zero.

Well he hasn't played enough for sitting to do anything :)

islander1
01:58:48, 14.03.17

It's funny, getting my Nacho team form up has been a pain. I wonder if age had a small factor after all

scorpy
23:27:34, 14.03.17

islander1 01:58:48, 14.03.17 It's funny, getting my Nacho team form up has been a pain. I wonder if age had a small factor after all
I don't think that age matters.

Satyr
09:53:36, 16.03.17

My goalie goes from 100 to zero and back for some seasons now. Benching him (for a few matches) does not help, so I just let him play.

islander1
14:01:26, 16.03.17

Cool, so it's not just me then.

I really don't have that many problems with my A team. Yeah, a lot of players need multiple games to go UP in form from down, but that's my expectation. If you get a guy who goes from -5 to +5 after one game, that's just lucky.

10:45:37, 17.03.17

islander1 14:01:26, 16.03.17 Cool, so it's not just me then.

I really don't have that many problems with my A team. Yeah, a lot of players need multiple games to go UP in form from down, but that's my expectation. If you get a guy who goes from -5 to +5 after one game, that's just lucky.


Never had such a problem. A player must play at least 50% of the season games and the form will go up 99,99% if you bench him. I don't remember when I had to bench a player twice.

magicspeedo
21:50:42, 17.03.17

I just rested every other game until it starts going up. It seems to work, my team is at 97% right now.

manny
01:28:29, 19.03.17

Geistero 10:45:37, 17.03.17 islander1 14:01:26, 16.03.17 Cool, so it's not just me then.

I really don't have that many problems with my A team. Yeah, a lot of players need multiple games to go UP in form from down, but that's my expectation. If you get a guy who goes from -5 to +5 after one game, that's just lucky.

Never had such a problem. A player must play at least 50% of the season games and the form will go up 99,99% if you bench him. I don't remember when I had to bench a player twice.


bech and rest? or only bech?

20:39:46, 19.03.17

manny 01:28:29, 19.03.17 Geistero 10:45:37, 17.03.17 islander1 14:01:26, 16.03.17 Cool, so it's not just me then.

I really don't have that many problems with my A team. Yeah, a lot of players need multiple games to go UP in form from down, but that's my expectation. If you get a guy who goes from -5 to +5 after one game, that's just lucky.

Never had such a problem. A player must play at least 50% of the season games and the form will go up 99,99% if you bench him. I don't remember when I had to bench a player twice.

bech and rest? or only bech?


1. The player with the form, e.g. 90 (-5), played 50% of the previous matches in the current season.
2. Bench him in one official game. - Form becomes 90 (0).
3. With the Form 90 (0) bench him in another official game - Form switches to 90 (+5).

99,99999% it works like this.

Temm
16:00:26, 20.03.17

1. The player with the form, e.g. 90 (-5), played 50% of the previous matches in the current season.
2. Bench him in one official game. - Form becomes 90 (0).
3. With the Form 90 (0) bench him in another official game - Form switches to 90 (+5).

99,99999% it works like this.


Yep - except I think the calculation determining number of previous matches played is done on the weekends, therefore since this value is zeroed out prior to the first weekend, benching during the first week won't have the same effect regardless. So, I'd say the above works except in the first week of the season.

17:25:59, 20.03.17

Temm 16:00:26, 20.03.17 1. The player with the form, e.g. 90 (-5), played 50% of the previous matches in the current season.
2. Bench him in one official game. - Form becomes 90 (0).
3. With the Form 90 (0) bench him in another official game - Form switches to 90 (+5).

99,99999% it works like this.

Yep - except I think the calculation determining number of previous matches played is done on the weekends, therefore since this value is zeroed out prior to the first weekend, benching during the first week won't have the same effect regardless. So, I'd say the above works except in the first week of the season.


It works in the first week of the season exactly the same. The player MUST play the 1. match of the regular champ. It means he played in 100% of the previous matches of the current season. So you can bench him for the 2. match and his form will be switched.

If you bench him in the 1. match, it won't bring anything.

If the player was injured and didn't play in the first two matches, then he MUST play on Wednsday NC-match and on Thursday - 50% of the official matches was played - so you can bench him on Friday and his form will be switched.

Temm
17:48:04, 20.03.17

Great clarification! :) Thank you.

islander1
17:30:26, 21.03.17

Geistero 10:45:37, 17.03.17 islander1 14:01:26, 16.03.17 Cool, so it's not just me then.

I really don't have that many problems with my A team. Yeah, a lot of players need multiple games to go UP in form from down, but that's my expectation. If you get a guy who goes from -5 to +5 after one game, that's just lucky.

Never had such a problem. A player must play at least 50% of the season games and the form will go up 99,99% if you bench him. I don't remember when I had to bench a player twice.



50% of season games. Therein may lie the problem then. Since I'm new to team building with the B team.

grillmaster
15:58:52, 22.03.17

Is there some sort of official probability matrix for form?

Like, if the player was (+5) yesterday, than today will be 90% (+5), 10% (0).
If the player was (0) yesterday, than today will be 80% (0), 10% (+5), 10% (-5).
If the player was (-5) yesterday, than today will be 90% (-5), 10% (0).

Those numbers are made up by me but I feel like its fairly accurate based on what I see with my team. That is assuming the player is not benched.

19:45:01, 22.03.17

if the player is a goallie with form 0, and you pench him, then today will be 80% (0), 10% (+5), 10% "you are trying to get goalie form up?!" puny human, respect my authoritaaa!".


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