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izy7
10:35:21, 24.08.20

Pavel Burek 10:26:36, 24.08.20 flag is not simple, but nonsense. Also what I'll say now sounds stupid to me, but if people really think that this is so important, then there should be an option to hide all the flags, so you won't see them in the game. So they will be hidden in your game, but with it you won't interfere in others.

Then why force them to use these?
Paraphrasing your words-
it is just a game, don't involve politics don't force anyone to represent flags they don't support.

The neutral flag option for them all would fix everything.
And it is simple, since Belarus already had option to use different flag.

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Pavel Burek
10:47:00, 24.08.20

If they really have that option, it's stupid. Also neutral flag is stupid. Which players will have neutral flag? All Belarusians or just players which their manager will change to neutral? What if I buy Belarusian player and I want him to have official flag?

Nah, it's enough, I can't say anything else, because you clearly don't understand what I'm trying to say.

10:53:38, 24.08.20

Pavel Burek 10:47:00, 24.08.20 really have that option, it's stupid. Also neutral flag is stupid. Which players will have neutral flag? All Belarusians or just players which their manager will change to neutral? What if I buy Belarusian player and I want him to have official flag?

Nah, it's enough, I can't say anything else, because you clearly don't understand what I'm trying to say.

+10000000

yahoo22
11:09:15, 24.08.20

@izy7
What others, especially Pavel Burek, are trying to tell you is that, that you can do it in your own team, you have in-game options to express your own political, religion and other beliefs by changing name, logo, etc...
But, what you are requesting is having official, built-in-option, for expressing your own, personal beliefs which some other managers might find insulting and does not have to agree with you. Not saying it is the case here, but it would be big precedence for other group of managers with other beliefs to push that way forward and...where would be the end of that path?
Would this manager end up with buttons for choosing religions? Political parties? Sexual orientations? etc..?
Why the hell you want that in hockey manager?

izy7
11:11:31, 24.08.20

Pavel Burek 10:47:00, 24.08.20 really have that option, it's stupid. Also neutral flag is stupid. Which players will have neutral flag? All Belarusians or just players which their manager will change to neutral? What if I buy Belarusian player and I want him to have official flag?

Nah, it's enough, I can't say anything else, because you clearly don't understand what I'm trying to say.


I don't see different Belarus flag anymore, but when it was, it was just for few managers, National team and other teams had old flag, so it has to be option.

I'm not speaking about players but managers and their team flag not individual players flag.


I know what you are trying to say, and I agree that unofficial flag option was mistake, but your reasoning is just wrong and you clearly don't want to understand why.

1. Business nowadays can have their own public opinion or show support to groups they want even if it is just a game - like it or not.
2. You are speaking about game being political neutral, but indirectly game supports official governments by not having option to be neutral.


Yea, all from me as well, this place doesn't seem very open minded, it's easier to ignore and silence problems than actually solving them.

Pavel Burek
11:15:01, 24.08.20

@yahoo22 Thanks, man! That's exactly what I was trying to say. I hope that they understand it now.

Romario
11:15:56, 24.08.20

Personally, I am neutral about flags. It is more important for me that the dictator left the country as soon as possible, got on a plane and flew to the UAE, Russia, Venezuela or Turkey.

Pavel Burek
11:20:51, 24.08.20

@izy7

1. HA is not business, because we are not business partners but players who are playing a game.
2. I'm not speaking about political neutral, I'm speaking about not involving politics or any other beliefs in HA. And with official flag you don't support anyone, especially not governement of that country, come on!

11:36:51, 24.08.20

Pavel Burek 11:20:51, 24.08.20 @izy7

1. HA is not business, because we are not business partners but players who are playing a game.
2. I'm not speaking about political neutral, I'm speaking about not involving politics or any other beliefs in HA. And with official flag you don't support anyone, especially not governement of that country, come on!

you are trying to solve and explain unnecessarily .. he always finds an excuse ...

12:33:33, 24.08.20

The HA-rules are set. All parts used their opportunity to express their opinions. I think, it's high time to close this discussion...:)

Pavel Burek
12:53:58, 24.08.20

Geistero 12:33:33, 24.08.20 The HA-rules are set. All parts used their opportunity to express their opinions. I think, it's high time to close this discussion...:)

Which HA-rules and about what exactly?

13:03:02, 24.08.20

Geistero 12:33:33, 24.08.20 The HA-rules are set. All parts used their opportunity to express their opinions. I think, it's high time to close this discussion...:)

this topic should never have been created

izy7
13:06:47, 24.08.20

Yea, just move on.

Guano
04:09:46, 26.08.20

andeens 20:02:11, 23.08.20 on before giving opinion?

Affects all of us? How exactly these few managers with different flag affected you ?

Person who started this discussion have very controversial flag as his team logo which is banned by multiple organisations in USA because it's often associated with racism, but no-one cares about that, but making such a big deal because of these Belarus flags..

+1


Good point.

Robert Lee
09:04:48, 26.08.20

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I did NOT start a discussion. I just asked a question about the alternative Belarusian flag. Had I known how sensitive that subject was I would have kept my mouth shut.
What has the Confederate flag to do with all this? Yes, I use it in my logo and in another thread, I explained why – because some people asked me. Sadly, some extreme groups abuse the Confederate flag in a totally unacceptable way. The opinions of these extremists are controversial – not the flag.
In multiple states you can display the Confederate flag on your license plate with the inscription “Sons of Confederate veterans”, so there is no nationwide ban.
Some British nationalists fly the Union Jack flag. Does that make the Union Jack flag controversial?
Is the Spanish flag controversial because of their previous involvement in slave trade?
“Political correctness” is a huge threat to the freedom of speech and the liberty to form your own opinion. Diversity seems to be ok as long as you agree with the mainstream socialists. Ridiculous.
I am a dedicated Christian. Some people here call their arena “Hell Arena” and things like this. Demonic images are often displayed in logos. Does that offend me? It could, but I chose not to be affected by it.
Let us concentrate about why we are playing this game. WE ARE ALL HOCKEY-FANS!!

Robert Lee
11:43:08, 26.08.20

I changed by logo. So now everyone should be happy...

Seahawk
23:22:06, 01.09.20

HA should use only official state flags
It is a sport game,not a political

Seahawk
23:24:24, 01.09.20

Romario 11:15:56, 24.08.20 Personally, I am neutral about flags. It is more important for me that the dictator left the country as soon as possible, got on a plane and flew to the UAE, Russia, Venezuela or Turkey.

Yes,for you) Not for HA;)


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