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Norks
20:00:01, 19.07.22

Pavel Burek 18:53:46, 31.05.22 get messsages from managers asking about it, and also for buyers, that they wouldn't have to send tons of messages to managers to find good enough players for them and also to stay away from players that don't have visible Q, P, L, because their managers probably don't want to tell the right number, because it's not good enough. :D

A most solid idea this one Pavel Burek.

08:00:53, 20.07.22

kik. 15:44:45, 31.05.22 Let's create a blacklist of managers who are lying about players Q/P/L, as HA is not doing anything about it.

And take a screenshot with proof.

First two on the list -

Meemais - <a href="https://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?https://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_team_info_basic.php&amp;team_id=43795" target="_blank">https://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_team_info_basic.php&amp;team_id=43795</a>

Spuddy - <a href="https://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?https://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_team_info_basic.php&amp;team_id=47972" target="_blank">https://www.hockeyarena.net/en/index.php?p=public_team_info_basic.php&amp;team_id=47972</a>


Is this even legal? Askin for q/p/l .... the scouting system is set for a reason. The game was intended to not know everything 100% sure.
And absolutely there is no policy about lying q/p/l .

10:43:07, 20.07.22

dragosv they are asking this mainly to save money and scouting ...because by using the scouting dpt.you can scout only quality & potential as exact values..loyality just as + or - .
We know that all managers want to know exact loyalty due to current and also due to future price ..Loy +3 is much more expensive ...several manager lied about or are still lying about this value..they are abusing current status - you are not able to scout ..
Asking for q/p/l is annoying from my point of view...but it's not illegal ..of course you have to take a risk,because someone still will be trying to lie about, and to believe that info from the owner is correct..
Everyone wants just plus three...to avoid UFA in future..
Managers have to learn play with all loyalities.. It would be better to have just option to write + or - ..not exact value in topics ...
Or I have an idea how to solve this...but there is necessary assistance of Icko 🙂 ...before putting a player on the market you can highlated this player by some color ..every color on the market would marked exact loyalty...and by this tool you can also secure a future punishments for liars..

Keiris
19:50:37, 20.07.22

Just make loyalty fully visible for scouted players while they're on the market.

muffty
08:36:12, 21.07.22

Keiris 19:50:37, 20.07.22 Just make loyalty fully visible for scouted players while they're on the market.

+1

kik.
22:28:14, 21.07.22

I don’t care about spending money on scouting (it could be lower though), the thing that you can scout only 3 players is stupid in my opinion. Imagine NHL scouts scouting only top3 guys in the world…

Keiris
18:30:11, 22.07.22

You can scout as many as you want if you're scouting by clicking directly on the potential. It will use up your remaining draft scouts first so use them before that.

19:08:23, 22.07.22

Exactly 😉

15:20:01, 23.07.22

Somebody xxx claimed that lying, for example transfers site, is not prohibited.
I think the matter is stated clearly.

General rules.
It is forbidden to :
- arrange a transfer with another team in such a way that one team is favoured over the other, regardless of method
- name your team, stadium or manager with any indecent or inflammatory names
- take advantage of bugs or omissions from the rules and in doing so violating the spirit of competition.

If you lie about the information and get a financial benefit from it, you have clearly broken the regulations.

I agree that the loyalty of the scouted player should be shown. Loyalty has significant financial importance.

islander1
06:48:52, 29.07.22

no one is getting penalized for lying about a player's Q/P/L, though.

I agree that loyalty should be visible on the market if scouted, though.

08:27:46, 29.07.22

I just suppose...maybe there is some issue how to do this...to scout player and then to see his real quality just in exact time ..when is on the market...
But..loyality was bad idea..fr my point of view would be enough to have just satisfaction...how can be someone loyal to the team when is still sitting on the bench and waiting for transfer?

kik.
12:11:18, 29.07.22

Trsto 08:27:46, 29.07.22 just suppose...maybe there is some issue how to do this...to scout player and then to see his real quality just in exact time ..when is on the market...
But..loyality was bad idea..fr my point of view would be enough to have just satisfaction...how can be someone loyal to the team when is still sitting on the bench and waiting for transfer?


Then you have to create a new game engine.
But there should be bigger discounts for UFAs in your team, so that you could keep your players and not have to rebuild the team when they are 27. For example, for players who are in your team for atleast 5 seasons. Or there could be a +loyalty after the player is in your team for x amount of seasons and gets x amount of playtime.

islander1
20:06:44, 29.07.22

new game engine? like 6.0?

lol

kik.
08:53:10, 31.07.22

islander1 20:06:44, 29.07.22 new game engine? like 6.0?

lol


Well, you can see how F1 manager game looks like. To attract new users, you have to update the game all the time…

islander1
03:27:52, 01.08.22

kik. 08:53:10, 31.07.22 islander1 20:06:44, 29.07.22 new game engine? like 6.0?

lol

Well, you can see how F1 manager game looks like. To attract new users, you have to update the game all the time…


People pay 50 bucks to buy that game though.
This is free.


Honestly, it's almost only sunk cost that keeps me here the past few years. If Icko shut this all down tomorrow, i wouldn't be too bothered, despite having 2 years of sponsor left

Keiris
21:37:21, 02.08.22

I actually wouldn't be against if some features could be purchased with real money when the game becomes more modern (allthough I wouldn't use them myself). Like instant stadium upgrades, some jerseys, some money (with limitations) etc. Small things that would make the development faster for new teams but wouldn't necessarily break the spirit of this great game.

tothebromobile
22:16:53, 02.08.22

William 13:27:50, 16.07.22 I don't need to defend anybody. My point is that you are a random guy and not a HA team member. So why should you be the one to make this list? I don't like that.

What the real sollution should be what Pavel allready said: Make Q/P/L visible when they are on the market.


Power tripping much? No one really cares that you don't like it, there's a problem and nothing has been done about it. There's no real way to prove if anyone has lied (a simple page edit can be done), but this shows the shortcomings of the forum and messaging system in general. Not fixing the problems and then complaining about user created alternatives is laughable.

kik.
18:00:14, 03.08.22

islander1 03:27:52, 01.08.22 new users, you have to update the game all the time…

People pay 50 bucks to buy that game though.
This is free.


Yes, but many managers here have spent more than 50 bucks.
This game is mostly for 18+ audience, of course there are younger people playing, but the idea is that nothing really has changed over the years. For example creating an app for this game shouldn’t be so expensive nowadays and that would attract more users instantly.


 
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