Pavel Burek 11:57, 10.8 Hello everyone,
I don't want to 'add fuel to the fire' again, but if transfer of this player (<a href="https://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=public_player_info.inc&player_id=47440451" target="_blank">https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=public_player_info.inc&player_id=47440451</a>) remains unpunished, I would kindly ask for a refund of money that have been taken away from me due to these two punishments: <a href="https://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=manager_transfer_detail.php&id=6304500" target="_blank">https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=manager_transfer_detail.php&id=6304500</a>, <a href="https://www.hockeyarena.net/public_redirect.php?https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=manager_transfer_detail.php&id=6304499" target="_blank">https://www.hockeyarena.net/sl/index.php?p=manager_transfer_detail.php&id=6304499</a>
Thank you.
Are you comparing a guy overpaying for a niche player (24 year old center with 90% AI) to you selling donkeys to your friends for hundreds of millions for years, building a world league winning team in the process? I agree the guy is way overpriced and could potentially imply a couple of hundred millions fine on the seller, but you're just lucky your team wasn't plain kicked out of the game.
Pavel Burek -
You are just looking for trouble this time. If this player have +3 loyalty, then price can easily be adequate and you know that yourself. About your players - it's been way too long time and accept that you will not get anything back. Also, the GM who openly admitted that he hated your community and was looking to punish you are no more GM, so why keep bothering?
adriouche -
terrible comment. Slovenia just won U20 and got second place in senior NT while being one of smallest communities. They know how to train their players and these players were one the best during these market trades in world. It was one GM who were openly harassing their community. He is no more GM and he was even banned from forum for 1 year by icko. Seems like that is removed, but you can see how emotionally and childish this game is being managed by witnessing these events.
adriouche 12:23, 12.8 old center with 90% AI) to you selling donkeys to your friends for hundreds of millions for years, building a world league winning team in the process? I agree the guy is way overpriced and could potentially imply a couple of hundred millions fine on the seller, but you're just lucky your team wasn't plain kicked out of the game.
I actually think they shouldn't be punished for this transfer, because if experienced manager (which the buyer of this player definitely is) estimate that he's ready to pay that much for such player, then who is everyone else to say that he isn't worth that much. The reason why I posted this was because price was very high (much higher then my sales) and it happened between two managers from the same country with only one offer made (which was allegedly a problem with my sales).
And if you think these two players were donkeys, I don't know what to say about your players that can't even hold a candle to them.
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izy7 13:20, 12.8 players were one the best during these market trades in world. It was one GM who were openly harassing their community. He is no more GM and he was even banned from forum for 1 year by icko. Seems like that is removed, but you can see how emotionally and childish this game is being managed by witnessing these events.
@izy7 you are right, I probably shouldn't have mentioned it again, but I saw 1.7 billion transfer between two managers from Slovakia and I couldn't help myself, since it still kinda hurts that they stole 600 millions from me for no reason.
And thank you for kind words in your second part of the comment. Appreciate!
I rarely post in here but you're frankly the last person to have any legitimacy to rant at people fixing transfers, and you're lucky the game doesn't keep information saved, especially after players retire, cause we could otherwise put under your nose the dozens of fixed transfers you did back in the days to build your team. I know dozens of managers who reported these back then across several communities, and it took forever to finally have you punished, but it was too little too late cause you stole your fair share of trophies along the road including the WL. This is a small game with a small community. It's bad enough when people cheat, but when top managers are the ones doing it without getting punished on time, this just tarnished the whole reputation of the game. I know a fair amount of managers who left the game because of people like you. So please have the decency to not come publicly complain about fixed transfers or ask for your money back.
Mummy 
Mummy ·
17:59, 12.8
Every time someone sell player there's gonna be mail with Q,P,L
So what's difference if you told attributes to someone or just say how much You're willing to pay for some player. One is fair (if you don',t lie) one is breaking the rule.
adriouche 17:21, 12.8 people cheat, but when top managers are the ones doing it without getting punished on time, this just tarnished the whole reputation of the game. I know a fair amount of managers who left the game because of people like you. So please have the decency to not come publicly complain about fixed transfers or ask for your money back.
One world league title is not a lot. There are managers who have dominated for seasons. Also this was argument by GMs why Pavel was punished for these trades - that they think he have cheated earlier. Do you see irony? Same people did not punished him for some alleged cheating before so they made up these reasons later. If managers involved in these trades were different, not Pavel, then they would never been punished.
I also hated his team when it was #1 team for multiple seasons buying all the best players in game and enjoyed when he couldn't win WL titles this way :D but I stand his side when I see how unfair these decisions have been and how inconsistent are market punishments.
izy7 21:20, 12.8 were different, not Pavel, then they would never been punished.
I also hated his team when it was #1 team for multiple seasons buying all the best players in game and enjoyed when he couldn't win WL titles this way :D but I stand his side when I see how unfair these decisions have been and how inconsistent are market punishments.
Most people (beside icko) run this game (moderators, GMs, translators etc) for free, so I can understand they have other things to worry about. It took several messages to several moderators to finally get the likes of Burek sanctioned. If it would have been up to me this guy would have been kicked out of the game permanently, but again, I can accept the decisions of people who run this game for free.
What I have a hard time accepting is a guy who got caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, who still has the gut to come over and complain to the GM community about people who haven't done a tenth of his cheating.
adriouche 22:01, 12.8 but again, I can accept the decisions of people who run this game for free.
What I have a hard time accepting is a guy who got caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, who still has the gut to come over and complain to the GM community about people who haven't done a tenth of his cheating.
Hold your horses with your insulting accusations. I have never cheated or fixed any transfer in a way that is not allowed, that's why you cannot give a single specific example of it. So saying that you would have kicked me out of the game long ago is completely out of line, and by saying everything that you said (and keep saying it even after izy7 explained you very well how things stand), you are the one breaking the rules of this game by heavily insulting me with completely made-up accusations.
adriouche 22:01, 12.8 but again, I can accept the decisions of people who run this game for free.
What I have a hard time accepting is a guy who got caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, who still has the gut to come over and complain to the GM community about people who haven't done a tenth of his cheating.
So you kept messaging mods and no-one agreed with you to punish Pavel until someone bended under pressure and finally punished him ? And you are being happy about that? These punishments from 2025 were already proven to be wrong. They even admitted and decreased the amounts of original punishments.
According to your logic, you are then also last person who should be commenting on these issues.
Anyway, Pavel already admitted that he shouldnt have pointed at this trade and everyone should just move on.
adriouche 22:01, 12.8 but again, I can accept the decisions of people who run this game for free.
What I have a hard time accepting is a guy who got caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, who still has the gut to come over and complain to the GM community about people who haven't done a tenth of his cheating.
Also, sanctions made to Pavel only means that Jerrymouse who is also winner of world league was buying players for his team which competes in WL for too high price. That statement alone is quite ridiculous.
But if it was cheating, Pavel would be banned. He is not, so GMs and Icko didn't found that he was cheating. So you are now being red handed caught yourself putting someones else cookie jar into Pavel's bag. Shame.
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Stop hiding behind this "one" transfer from 2025, this is your life work before that I'm referring to. Anyway, this is a sterile discussion and shame isn't a concept that seems to affect you
I think izy7 has explained very well that you are the one who should be ashamed of yourself. So the last thing I'll say in this conversation is that you should watch your mouth and stop making baseless, insulting accusations.
I sell Mato Mrvelj, id 48716646 defense
Q 90, P 80-100, sum 66%
